Well I ordered the wrong thread. Pull the steam wand up and out of the Classic, and set it aside. K type thermocouple, 0-500, 2m cable (6 feet). Have had the parts sitting around for months and no time to install! The 103 is not a true 103, that is what is getting measured in the boiler wall, and there is also a temperature drop off between the boiler and the portafilter, so your final espresso temperature will be lower. The boiler had been installed in such a way that it had pinched/nearly severed the upstream wire on the brew light. Chris thank you so much. Is this a typo on your part or a mistake on their part? best part it is inexpensive and as easy as OPV mod, here are the links: But nothing prevents you from using the PID and thermocouple as a temperature indicator. It doesnt matter which thermostat wire is connected to which of the AC terminals on the solid state relay. I am thinking to upgrade my classic pro more compact version with below controller. excluding VAT. shades uses 2 connecting one ssr thru the other for steam. For the melted connector plastic, thats a sign of either a wire or a connector that is carrying too much current for its rating, or most likely, a connection between the wire and connector that is not as solid as it should be. 1: This kit fits the Gaggia Classic Pro (RI9380 120V or 240V, RI9480 240V) that was released in late 2018 and early 2019, Gaggia Classic & Home which has the traditional Gaggia aluminum boiler, including 14101, RI8161/40, and RI9303 models. Thank you very much if you find the time to answer me . Thanks, David. That controller is an interesting find. As for your PID always remaining on, it looks like you wired it to the unswitched mains, instead of the switched power. To set the target temperature, press the Set button on the front of the panel. I decided that for me, its not worth worrying about. For the Gaggia Classic, taking into account the temperature drop between the boiler and the group head (5-8 degrees C), the PID target temperature should be set to about 103 degrees C or 220 degrees F at sea level. Thanks. August 05, 2019, 11:46:38 PM . Only needs 2 x AAA batteries. Hi, thanks for the articely, it was great help to do the initial steps. It did take a few rounds to get it right, but it was successfully installed and functioning for a few months. Thus brewing circuit needs to be connected directly to the heating element, not over steaming circuit. [KIT-GG] Auber Instruments, Temperature control solutions for. 6. Do the same with the other connector wire. Guys, there is mains voltage here. (To be certain, the M4 is the correct one). Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. Thermocouple: J,S,K,E,Wre3 ~ Wre25 Wire colors and positions seem to vary. So you could measure water temp at the group head at 180 deg F with the PID set to 204 deg F. There is some interesting information here: https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/. GAGGIA Classic 2021 550.00 , : PID KIT 129.17 , Top Box 35.00, OPV KIT . This would also allow you to switch to PID-controlled brew mode simply by lowering the PID temperature. Once warmed up, the recovery time is quick and the swing is fairly minimal. After the kit is installed, the standby brew watertemperaturecan be controlled to within 1 (F or C) accuracy. Is this typical? $149.99 . Close. I am not surprised, Mr Shades runs an honest business, and those parts are being offered at low prices. The GC comes from the factory with a simple thermostat that turns on at a certain pre-set temperature, and turns off at another pre-set temperature. Shades uses an XMT7100 modified to run two SSRs: a DA for the brew temp and an AA for the steam temp. Power input. What you describe looks very much like the steam thermostat cycle. That would be easy enough to verify with a multimeter, to see which thermostat is active in steam mode and which one is active in brew mode. Mains is house current. did the REX-100 require most of the default setting to be changed or is it similar to changing like shades PID or Auber PID. Thanks for putting it together, this has helped me a lot in figuring out most of my doubts with a PID project for a Gaggia. Hi Jun, and thanks for the update. Even with a perfect offset, you would also need to also take into account the temperature offset between the boiler and the portafilter. Does anyone else have this kit? This morning I pulled my first shot with the PID. Here are a couple of examples: Hi Chris, All of this really means that you should balance whatever temperature you end up reading against what youre tasting, because thats what matters in the end. PID Control Kit for Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine, White LED $164.99. Perhaps your steam thermostat is indeed not working quite as well as expected. Was hoping to actually just install one of these: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/264849127538 I have a different/better single boiler PID machine I will use to pull shots. If youre following a recipe that calls for a specific water temperature, then it would be easier to do this with an offset at the PID. The lack of consistency pre-PID is frustrating, because you can get everything else right and still be at the mercy of the temperature determined by the thermostat cycle. New - Gaggia Classic Pro/2019 PID kit - 1/32DIN single display. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. QB-T7200 48*24mm Programmable Digital PID Temperature Controller with Built-in 5A Solid State Relay XMT7100 AC/DC85~260V. Universal Input: Thermo Resistor: PT100, Cu50 . that will make it where only one SSR is needed. 1. Thanks for the info, D. Your experience further goes to show that there is no standardized wire color coding in the GCP, even though black is usually hot and white is neutral. I got the white plastic in one of the stock connectors a bit burned, the plastic looks brown in some areas and a bit melted. Auber Forum. Hello, there is another model without SSR built in with name 7100 instead of 7200. Everything else (Auber and Mr Shades) includes an M4 thread on their pt100. Locked Topic . Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. Its getting very hot indeed so turned it off. Supposed to be faster in detecting temperature changes and more accurate with the measurement. Thanks heaps for the detailed instructions. Black case : Currently out of stock! One bit of note and a request. https://www.vertex-qis.co.uk/Manuals/PT100_con.pdf. The thermocouple that I ordered fit into the threaded adapter without any modifications. Started by Rocky47, June 28, 2019, 01:16:33 PM. I recently acquired a Gaggia Classic with an Auber PID controller installed. You can use the same 18 gauge wire between the heating element and the SSR. The Gaggia Classic is a very capable espresso machine that gets even better with a couple of improvements. different wiring though. Glad you got that sorted out. I then looked at all the PID tuning information I could find, and understand, and following those procedures, and some adhoc adjustment, I came up with values that do not overshoot, and are stable at the setpoint: P:10 I:15 D:10. As for you steam mode question, if you followed this guide for installing your PID, the PID will have no effect on the the steam temperatures or functions. It also means that you can only see the temperature and access the PID buttons from the top. The operation is the same as the unmodified Gaggia machine. As in, temperature was set, changed, maintained for pulling shots, as well as steam. it works better than poor mans preinfusion described by wholelatte love & Lance in the youtube. Hi Tom. Apart from that, when I turn on steam mode, the thermostat takes temperature in the machine around 151c-152c, it doesnt turn on again after it goes down to 102C, then turns on and repeats the cycle. Hi Rusty. By the way there are three options as 12V, 24V and 85-250V DC. PID Kit for older plastic body Gaggia Classic. If the wiring in your machine is different from our installation guide, please contact us. Read More. To do this, loosen the nut connecting the steam wand to the steam control assembly. Just use a multimeter to find the switched mains, and you should be able to follow the thermostat wires. and I didnt work straight through, but I would say the PID took me about 2 hours, not counting the down time due to the crossed power wires. Hard to say how long it took because I was doing other things as well (dimmer switch, boiler pressure gauge, boiler rebuild, etc.) Please see the compatible model list below (Note 1 on the bottom). The thermocouple connects to terminals 6 and 7. 1. Thanks! https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32975122837.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.11b02e0edh0ELd. Auto-tuning PID cooling/heating control Have you noticed any problem using REX-C100FK02 and RTD PT100? Shades and Auber Instruments. Its not hard if you know what you are doing and there is at least one youtube vid showing how its done. I can do a more detailed writeup of what Ive done if anyone feels like helping me find out whats not working properly! I am guessing that its caused by the current draw of the boiler heater. Hello. Have you checked the temperature accuracy of your PID & Thermocouple? Hi Gene. The KIT-GG is a retrofitting kit designed to control the coffee water temperatureon an espresso machine. I am glad this article helped. Please check KIT-GGX-EUinstead. Ill verify the cable, its one of the cables that came with the machine, so it could likely be the strands have slowly burned with time and just needs cutting and re-crimping, as you mention. These connectors are hard to reach, and are on very tight. I dont bother with offset, once I have a temperature dialed in, it doesnt matter whether its measured at the boiler or offset for the group head. Do I need to make any adjustments to your procedure to make the PID handle the steam only (not caring about the group head)? I installed an Auber PID on my Gaggia Classic earlier this year. Awesome PID installation guide! Not sure why that was the case. Im all for freedom of expression and creativity, but not when it might electrocute someone. Im thinking Id like to start with just a temperature indicator, to assist with the surfing. I purchased an AC to AC SSR (SSR 40AA) which will stabilise steaming temperatures in much smaller margins than the original steam thermostat. 3-Connect the other cable to the terminal on the on off switch, which is on top of or below the Live cable. There is no 12v anywhere in the GCP, its all mains power inside. I hesitate to identify wires by their color, as the wire colors in the Gaggia seem to vary from year to year and from region to region. I placed the SSR toward the left side of the back panel if facing the front of the machine. Then the PID will only switch on when the boiler temperature drops below the target temperature. This is really a DIY project. Specifications : Users can see the boiler temperature on the PID controller directly and also easily adjust the brew water temperature to suit their own tastes. Also really awesome write up. I am glad you solved the problem, Murat. The pre-infusion timer can also be used as a countdown shot timer. PID Kits for Gaggia; Jump to . Note that according to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UETVv0qgz-w, you can switch the C-100 between Celsius and Fahrenheit. It should work as a replacement for the C-100 and SSR, but because the SSR is built into the PID, so your wiring will be a bit different. Thermocouple included: M6*1 thread , K type , 2m cable Do you think that REX-C100FK02-V*EN (designed for K-type thermocouple) is compatible with RTD (PT100) and is not going to create long-term problems with the machine/setup? Please be sensible and install a grommet anyway! The result was overshoot of up to 18C and an inability to return to the setpoint temp, 105C, unless I shut everything off and restarted. I bought the PiD from Amazon referenced in a comment above and its working fine. The thermostat is a replacement, the original one burned around three years ago. The kit installation is fully reversible. Youre probably fine with either one. Hi Chris, I completed the whole project both for brewing for PID and steaming via alarm. (For orders placed recently in 2022) If you placed the order as a guest, you cantry the, (For orders placed a while ago) Please log in and download the manual from your order history page. I am going into speculation mode here I wonder if your Gaggia came with the steam and brew thermostat positions reversed? Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. The black box has a durable powder coating. The steam mode drops to 102 before the power cycle kicks back in, with the valve open or closed. For me I start steaming when the boiler temperature reads 130 degrees C. So for others who are contemplating going for the extra effort of installing the steam PID, know that the return on investment of doing this is questionable, if not net negative. $326.00. Some people have done this by replacing the water filler funnel and 3D printing a replacement cover. This PID controller kit is designed to retrofit into the European Gaggia Classic espresso machines made after 2015 (model# RI9403). Contact. Chris has done a great job on this write up and its easy to follow. Is it possible to do this with the GC factory temp sensor? Hi Anton. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4243840. Youre giving up one of the two temperature readouts, so youll probably only see the actual temperature, as opposed to the target temperature, and I guess you can switch between the two with a button press. Anyway, thank you Chris. However with the new steaming alarm system, I get a decrease around 10 degrees in steaming temperature as soon as AA SSR shuts down the boiler at the temperature I set, even it turns on right away (my setting is AL:156 AH:155 degrees Celcius). I hope you enjoy your upgraded GC as much as I do mine! Hello, I acquired and prepared all cables and SSR unit thanks to your well prepared title above. ). You should be done! Leave the Classic powered on for at least 15 minutes. Regulate the standby coffee water temperatureto within 1 (F or C) accuracy. Hi Brian. Indeed, not an option. I still have one question you may be able to answer. Gaggia Classic Coffee Machine Modelo 3D TurboSquid 1036412. It looks like your GC is in steam mode. Remove the thermostat. Run-program does a 1s pre-infuse followed by about 1s pause, then 30s pump on. The sensor has three wires: 1 x red and 2 x white. I went with an insulated PT100. Ive set the Sn value to pt for the PT100. 3 months later, Ive finally set up the PID and honestly, its a gamechanger! When I finished, the whole C100 display just got current only for a sec, then it went out. Gaggia Accademia. That is indeed not normal. I also think that you may have less difficulty reaching the thermostat, the 2019+ models have a lot less room to spare inside. I agree, the PID is a gamechanger. Hi Miguel. I had no problem with my mod other than the stickers on the back of the PID were reversed, so the terminal markings were not correct. Hope this helps. You can search on Reddit, a few people have made these modifications. The little red collar shows the location. Due to your kind and quick advice, I could order SSR40DA. I have a question on the pid, it is normal for the brew light to blink (off and) while it stabilizes to the target temperature. Your Gaggia would be in steam mode by default, you would never have to switch on steam mode. I am not surprised that the steam kit made little difference. I dont own a multimeter. Most thermocouple calibration articles that I have read use ice water to calibrate to zero degrees C because the boiling point of water varies with altitude. One last question: Auber and Mr Shades are calling their sensors PT100 while mine is K type thermocouple. I hope it helps some EU folks not spending extra hours on debugging this minor EU-US model difference . gaggia classic pro pid installation guideAUBER PID for gaggia classic proThis is a walkthrough / guide on ins. That being said, the original brew thermostat is supposed to be 107C, so could perhaps reach even higher temperatures? Thank you. Yes it is normal for the brew light to blink like this after you install a PID. New - Gaggia Classic Pro/2019 PID kit - 1/32DIN single display $135.30 SHIPPING: We load new stock of PIDs on a Sunday, and they sell out very quickly (often within a few hours). If your connection is down to just a few strands, that will generate heat. What is the intra-shot temperature fluctuation that you are seeing on your machine with your PID setup? Thanks a lot for the answer. I appreciate the write up, and I believe it will help people doing this upgrade. Hi Chris, My theory at the moment would be that due to the PID control the heater is sometimes on at higher temperatures. Unfortunately, no, you cant use the factory sensor. I'd like to increase the brew temp a couple of degrees but have no idea how to do this. But that also seems fiddly. Select the preferred temperature unit so that all parameters are pre-set properly for you. Does this mean that I have made the connection properly? I found that moving the boiler up and to the side allowed me to get to the thermostat from the bottom really easily vs. the top. Even if that is the case, i dont have a clue as to why i would be in steam mode, since i didnt touch the steam mode button or its wires, i have already reverted my swap of the power switches wires (just from up to down on the same switch so that shouldnt have impacted anything) and ive validated that the rollback was correct with a multimeter. Hi Paul. Shades. Replacing that wire= everything works perfectly now! Mr Shades is selling many small items (piggyback, spade, thermal paste, power cable, rubber grommet etc.) Useful link. Have you got any ideas what might be going on? I actually ended up getting the one you recommended. 100% Upvoted. . . 0. hide. I have installed the supply cable for PID unit using piggyback spade connectors. You could approach this two ways. Bliss. 1 RELAY alarm: Normal open, capacity 250V/3A AC or 30V/3A DC (Markings can be found on front side of the plug) 2-Check the color of the cable which shows L sign on the plug- meaning Live. Shop for it now! The solution is PID control via means of an industrial temperature controller; this is a common modification amongst the Gaggia and Rancillio community. Never used a K type so I cant say for sure. PID KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+ & Classic & Home, Pre-infusion. Whole Latte Love has a new video about preinfusion on the classic. Does the PID generate enough heat to melt the Lego bricks? Run two 12 volt wires from the + and terminals of the solid state relay and out the back of the Classic, again using the same slot. Thanks Alex! Because the PID runs on mains voltages, an enclosure is required. Make sure that all the new and repositioned wires are cleanly routed away from the boiler and pump and any uninsulated connectors. (I believe it is currently on 5) Or shall I just keep it as it is, showing DC 100V when I turn the switch on? With a PID controller added to the heater control circuit, brew water temperature can be controlled to within 1 accuracy. I would not try anything without checking first. Im so thankful for this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoZuYaDq5yc, Thanks Jeff, thats a great video. Im sorry about that, Eric. Allow easy adjustment on the coffee water temperature. Most likely they will have the same connector types as the REX-C100, but its always possible that you will need different connectors depending on what you end up ordering. This resulted in the PID not powering up even though the machine did. Or do you think the same set will work with QB-T7100? However I dont know if my unit is properly calibrated and/or has a proper offset. There is definitely a falloff from the temperature reported by the thermocouple at the boiler and what you will measure at the group head. Hello Chris, Submit a Request Call Us at (888)-389-4123. Might be easier for most folks to buy an M4 screw, type K, thermocouple direct vs trying to get the probe version then another adapter. Hi Eddie. What you describe is pretty normal, except that I am a bit surprised that your steam drops temperature down to 102. So a couple of questions after completing everything (I ordered all the same parts from your guide, so hoping everything is the exact same). Thanks so much for the awesome guide! Hi Brian. Hi peeps, finally got all the bits n pieces to do the Pid, brew & steam mod on the gaggia, does anybody have any general instructions for putting this all together? Its no secret that the chassis of the Classic has extremely sharp edges. In a properly wired North American outlet, the neutral wire is white, and the hot/load wire is black (ground is green). Leave as much of the thermal grease in place as possible. Your wiring looks right. Both shades and auber use the alarm 1 & 2 though with different PIDs for steam with upper limit & lower limit. Select Your Mounting option. Its one more thing to plug in, but the upside is that it would be electrically isolated from the Gaggia. It was impossible to see without getting down into the wire harness. I decided to go the do-it-yourself route, ordering the parts separately, at a fraction of the cost of the kits. This steam blipping is a fairly common practice that people use to avoid boiler heater cycling, its just another way to do temperature surfing. -. At a minimum, I think you would need the following: I dont see piggyback connectors on Mr Shades list, maybe those are part of the set of wires, but its not clear. Brilliant article. These wires will be connected to the solid state relay later on, so they no longer need to be in the bottom of the machine. If you are in the U.S. then mains voltage is 120V, which will not kill you (unless you have a pacemaker or are standing in a bathtub) but can give you a decent shock. Thanks in advance. https://wiki.wholelattelove.com/File:GAGGIA_CLASSIC_2019_Wiring_Schematic.pdf See our 325 reviews on. This PID-SSR combination does away with the 12v connection, and uses three wires for the mains power and SSR, with one wire shared between mains and the SSR output. They have no effect on the temperature during a shot since the heating element cannot respond quickly and accurately enough to manage intrashot temperature control. This guide should generally also apply to the 2013 GC, but you must assume that any of the switch wiring that I describe will be different for your model year. PWM dimmer for preinfusion Once the machine has been set to 9 bars of pressure (see bottom of article), the next big improvement is the addition of a PID. PID temperature control kit for Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+, Classic & Home. The best way to find is: 1-Connect one cable to the mains connector at the back where it is showing N sign meaning Neutral. It really pays off to assume nothing, and test everything. 5. Their kit is convenient, and is the way to go if someone doesnt feel ready to take on a 100% DIY project. Watching the steam temp with the PID is interesting (I know it has no effect on it, but it is cool to see how it reacts now) and it is definitely best practice to steam while its on its way up in temp, once it hits the set point it comes down for a while (mine settled around 130 before it started back up). The pump can be stopped at any time by pressing the ">" key a second time. It will depend on the beans you use, and your palate. The PID kit you described should work, but like the C-100 kit the I used, the included thermocouple wont fit in the Gaggia Classic. If you have questions regarding ourcoffee kits, please check ourHelp Centerfirst. I was able to create one using Lego bricks sitting around in the basement. 6 Reviews (6) $326.00. Update:This kit is compatible with the latestGaggia Classic Pro (released in 2018/2019) models, including the regular model (RI9380, 120V or 240V) and the European model(RI9480, 240V). Does this happen even if you let the machine sit in steam mode and dont open the steam valve?. My problem is, unlike Rancilio Sylvia, heating element of Gaggia Classic Pro seems impossible to connect without cutting cables. Hi Andrue. Thread the thermocouple wire through to the back of the machine, and out the same slot as was used for the other wires. Ive been hearing the solenoid valve click several times while on steam mode as well, and the group head releasing steam on occasions, which also make me worry in terms of the wiring, or the parts just need replacement. Thank you for your time. Im on [emailprotected] Note: I fully tested the PID, SSR and thermocouple on the workbench before final installation. How do I ensure that Im tapping the neutral mains? When I turn off, it goes back to zero. Be careful, the edges of the hole in the chassis are very sharp. Hi Ray. 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